Sunday, July 22, 2007

Jericho: Greenbox

Who knew fishing could be good for the environment?

Three fishing buddies in Wales may have hit the environmental jackpot and we're all going to benefit. Check out the article here.

This is the kinda thing that excites the hell out of me. Even if you just gave this to trucks and buses and trains, it would have to take a bite out of our carbon footprint!

8 Comments:

Blogger Max Dobberstein said...

But does it get us off of oil? I don't care how green it is if it still need Arabian Herion.

I'd rather see us building nuke plants and switching to pluggable electrics.

July 22, 2007 6:43 PM  
Blogger Jericho Brown said...

You have to admit, this is a step in the right direction.

I hear people talking about bio-diesel not working because it will require a food crop. Well, this is proof that bio-diesel will not require a food crop.

Further, this falls into the discussion we had before about a short cycle for carbon. If a vehicle were to use bio-diesel and one of these boxes, it would only release 5 or 10% of the carbon it would normally release - but, that carbon came from a recently alive source to begin with - not a fossil fuel. Essentially, we could trap carbon currently in the air in our fuel system. Stores of biofuel would become carbon stores, essentially lowering the carbon in the atmosphere.

Take this a step further. I like plugable hybrids as much as you do. I think a PHEV running biofuel is the ultimate. But, instead of building nuke plants or more coal plants, build biofuel burning plants. They have oil fired power plants, right? Biofuel plants couldn't be too hard to come up with. Again, we would be trapping the free carbon in our environment.

You grow plants which trap free carbon. You turn those into fuel. You burn the fuel, running the exhaust through this GreenBox filter (on an industrial scale, obviously). This produces MUCH cleaner energy - we are actually storing carbon that was in the air in that algae that will become more biofuel.

At some point, you have enough businesses producing biofuels that you are actually lowering the carbon in the air significantly. The next (almost crazy) step would be to fill old abandoned mines with biofuels - perhaps mixed with water or some other antiburning agent. We could call this an emergency fuel stock pile, but essentially we would be storing the carbon we have set free with a century or more of fossil fuel abuse.

Not saying this could or will happen in the short term. But, it's a direction to aim our efforts.

July 23, 2007 11:11 AM  
Blogger Max Dobberstein said...

It would be great if it is doable. I am for getting our energy independence in the greenest way possible. From what I have seen, right now that means nuke. However, if we can make clean biodiesel without raising food prices to insane levels, I'm in.

July 23, 2007 11:33 AM  
Blogger Jericho Brown said...

So, you don't see a problem with nuclear waste? You don't see that as less than green?

Three Mile Island? Chernobyl? Reasonable risks?

July 23, 2007 4:55 PM  
Blogger Max Dobberstein said...

Chernobyl was a result of the crumbling soviet infrastructure. Design and safety have improved imensely since TMI.

And if you know of a form of energy that does not create waste, you need to let the rest of us in on it.

July 23, 2007 5:41 PM  
Blogger Jericho Brown said...

Waste is one thing. Waste you can do something with is something else.

The best we can do with nuclear waste is store it - making it a problem for future generations.

Hydrogen fuel cells produce water as "waste" - if you can even call it that.

With this GreenBox, hydro-carbon waste becomes fuel - or at least most of it does. If we can get biofuels online, we reduce the amount of carbon in the environment - and we go back up to my argument above.

I have no problem with nuke power as a stop gap. We have it, let's use it until solar, wind and maybe even bio-fuel can take over. The grid isn't great now, but it's not bad. Let's not build more nuclear and compound the issue. Green is better and in no way is nuke "green", IMHO.

July 24, 2007 9:53 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Fuck, I've missed my weirdo's n' shit. xoxo

July 25, 2007 12:22 AM  
Blogger Jericho Brown said...

Awww! We got Spew'd! :)

July 25, 2007 9:24 AM  

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